Interview with Raymond Lau, a spokesperson of April 5th Action.

June 28, 1997


On June 28, just 2 days before the Handover, April 5th Action went to the Governor House to lodge a protest. They read out a statement and burnt the Union Jack as a symbolic gesture of protest against the colonial system of Hong Kong. HKVOD interviewed Raymond Lau, a spokesperson of the group.

Q: Would you tell us the theme of your protest today?

A: It is to ask the British colonialists to go to hell. And, well, actually the main message we want to get across is, other than the pro-China circles in Hong Kong, there are people in Hong Kong who are not happy with imperialism and colonialism, who cannot forget the bloody record of British imperialism and colonialism in China and in Hong Kong. And we want to tell the world that pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong are not necessarily pro-British and anti-China only. There are pro-democracy activists who are anti-British, though not pro-China.

Q: Well, why did you burn the Union Jack?

A: As a symbolic gesture that we want imperialism and colonialism, not only in Hong Kong but in the world as a whole...to...really... go away.

Q: I notice that you also mentioned, without the China factor, Hong Kong would not be as successful today. Now, you are also against the British and you seem to be pro-China in that respect. So can you explain that a little bit further?

A: No, what we want to say there is, without certain objective factors, such as Hong Kong's special relationship with China, Hong Kong's economic development would have been impossible. We are not saying that the Chinese government helped Hong Kong to develop, we are not saying that. We are saying that Hong Kong's economic development is based upon a number of objective factors and the British colonial government has nothing to do with these factors. And so they are not to be thanked for Hong Kong's economic development.

Q: With only 2 days left before the Handover, what is the significance of your group coming here to have this sort of protest?

A: Mainly to get across to the world that pro-democracy activists who oppose the Chinese regime are not necessarily opposed to the end of colonialism. There are people who welcome...who have been fighting against colonialism for the past several decades in their political lives.

Q: Do you welcome the Chinese coming to Hong Kong to take it over?

A: We welcome the end of colonialism and we think ...let's put it this way, we welcome the end of colonialism in Hong Kong and the end of colonialism will provide a better chance for Hong Kong people to mobilize, to fight for a China and Hong Kong that really belongs to the people.

Q: In your statement, you mentioned that the hands of the British colonial government drip with the people's blood. Well, can you give us a few examples so our readers would know what it is all about?

A: Well, there are lots of incidents in which the British forces in Hong Kong, the British colonial police in Hong Kong have shot at and killed demonstrators against imperialism and colonialism. There are so many incidents. For example, the Shaji incident in 1925, in which 6 people were killed and several hundred people injured when they were shot at by British forces. And in 1966, when there were demonstrations against price increases, the British suppressed the demonstrations and one expatriate colonial police officer shot dead a demonstrator and ...I mean...there were lots of these incidents. There must be hundreds and thousands of Hong Kong and Chinese people killed by British colonialism and imperialism. I think it is really a shame that nobody in the pro-democracy camp has ever mentioned things like these. They say that we cannot forget history but I'm afraid they have forgotten all about colonial brutality and colonial suppression of Hong Kong

Q: Your statement said that the brutal colonial Public Order Ordinance would be taken over by the SAR government. So, are you worried about the future of Hong Kong or the future of your group?

A: I'm not worried about the future of Hong Kong. As to our group, I think we are one of the prime targets of the SAR government. We have to see if they suppress any groups in Hong Kong. We would be (among) the first, I believe. But there is no reason to hide. There is no reason for us to flee Hong Kong. We'll stay in Hong Kong. We struggle as before and see what happens.

Q: Do you have to a word to all the readers who would be reading your interview?

A: Well let us hope that imperialism in the world will end very soon.